
Was Haaland's winner a VAR error? Man Utd fury at 'injustice'
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Haaland scores controversial winner as Man City win derby despite Foden red The Premier League refereeing body Pro Ref has admitted an error of judgement in awarding Erling Haaland's Manchester City winner against Manchester United.
哈兰德赢得了有争议的冠军,因为曼城赢得了德比,尽管弗登红了 英超裁判机构Pro Ref承认在授予Erling Haaland对阵曼联的曼城冠军时存在判断错误。
As City celebrated a remarkable derby victory over Manchester United, there were questions as to whether Haaland's winning goal should have stood in a match fraught with controversy.
当曼城庆祝德比战胜曼联时,人们对哈兰德的制胜球是否应该站在一场充满争议的比赛中提出了疑问。
The striker scored in the 60th minute at Old Trafford, turning home at the back post from Josko Gvardiol's cross before it was disallowed on the field for offside.
这名前锋在老特拉福德的第60分钟进球,在乔斯科*格瓦迪尔的十字架上的后柱上回家,然后被禁止在场上越位。
Following intervention from the video assistant referee, the goal was awarded - the Norwegian ruled to have been played onside by Patrick Dorgu's boot.
在视频助理裁判的干预下,进球被判了-挪威人被帕特里克*多古的靴子踢得越位。
But there was debate as to whether the offside Enzo Fernandez, diving at the ball in a more central position than Haaland, was interfering with play.
但是关于越位恩佐*费尔南德斯(Enzo Fernandez)在比哈兰德(Haaland)更中心的位置跳水球是否干扰了比赛,存在争议。
In a statement, Pro Ref said: "It was established that Enzo Fernandez did not play the ball and therefore that makes any offside offence subjective.
在一份声明中,Pro Ref说:"已经确定恩佐*费尔南德斯没有踢球,因此这使得任何越位进攻都是主观的。
"However, on this occasion, the VAR did not recognise the likely impact of his position and should have recommended an on-field review.
"然而,在这个场合,VAR并没有意识到他的立场可能产生的影响,应该建议进行现场审查。
"Contact has been made with Manchester United this evening to acknowledge what we deem is an error of judgement.
"今天晚上我们已经与曼联取得了联系,承认我们认为这是一个判断错误。
A review of the incident will take place." United defender Lisandro Martinez said it was an "injustice" while boss Michael Carrick said he was "confused" by the decision.
将对事件进行审查。" 曼联后卫利桑德罗*马丁内斯(Lisandro Martinez)表示这是一个"不公正",而老板迈克尔*卡里克(Michael Carrick)表示他对这个决定感到"困惑"。
The goal came after City had gone down to 10 men in the first half when Phil Foden was shown a straight red card for kicking out at United captain Bruno Fernandes.
这个进球是在曼城在上半场下降到10人之后,菲尔*福登因为在曼联队长布鲁诺*费尔南德斯身上踢出了一张直红牌。
Foden was dismissed by referee Michael Oliver on 23 minutes after kicking the midriff of Fernandes while he was on the turf.
Foden被裁判Michael Oliver解雇了23分钟,他在草坪上踢了Fernandes的中场。
Haaland's goal was originally ruled out for offside before a VAR check overturned the decision When Haaland's goal was ruled out as offside on the field, few questioned the decision as the City striker looked to have drifted beyond United's defensive line.
哈兰德的进球最初被排除在越位之前,VAR检查推翻了决定 当哈兰德的进球被排除在场上越位时,很少有人质疑这个决定,因为这个城市前锋看起来已经超出了曼联的防线。
The lines drawn by the VAR showed Haaland to be onside thanks to Dorgu's boot.
VAR绘制的线条显示,由于多尔古的引导,哈兰德正在站在一边。
But it was the positioning and involvement of Fernandez that left many pundits astounded and unsure if it was a legitimate goal.
但正是费尔南德斯的定位和参与让许多专家感到震惊,不确定这是否是一个合法的目标。
Gvardiol's cross took a slight deflection off the boot of Dorgu before finding its way to Haaland at the back post, while Fernandez was clearly attempting a diving header in the middle of the six-yard box but he did not touch the ball. Fernandez appeared to be in an offside position, ahead of Dorgu's boot, but VAR deemed it to be a legitimate goal as he did not touch the ball while United defender Martinez was also closing in.
Gvardiol的十字架在多尔古的靴子上轻微偏转,然后在后柱找到通往哈兰德的路,而费尔南德斯显然是在六码框中间尝试跳水头球,但他没有碰到球。 费尔南德斯似乎处于越位位置,领先于多古的引导,但VAR认为这是一个合法的目标,因为他没有接触球,而曼联后卫马丁内斯也在接近。
The Premier League Match Centre said on X: "VAR checked the referee's call of no goal for offside - and determined that Haaland was in an onside position and recommended that the goal was awarded.
英超比赛中心在X上说:"VAR检查了裁判关于越位没有进球的呼吁-并确定哈兰德处于越位位置,并建议判进球。
"The VAR also deemed that while in an offside position, Fernandez didn't play the ball."
"VAR也认为,在越位时,费尔南德斯没有把球踢出来。"
Haaland explains his 'smile' during VAR goal check Dale Johnson, BBC Sport football issues correspondent The curiosity about this incident is that the goal was initially disallowed for the wrong reason.
哈兰德在VAR进球检查中解释了他的"微笑" Dale Johnson,BBC体育足球问题记者 关于这一事件的好奇心是,这个目标最初是由于错误的原因而不允许的。
Haaland was flagged offside when he shouldn't have been.
哈兰德本不该越位的时候被标记为越位。
But as it turned out, the goal should have been ruled out because Fernandez was offside.
但事实证明,这个目标应该被排除在外,因为费尔南德斯越位。
There is one key part of the offside law which applies to Fernandez here.
这里有一个关键部分越位法适用于费尔南德斯。
A player is offside if they are: "Clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent." Both parts of that clause must be met.
一个球员越位,如果他们是: "当这个动作影响到对手时,显然试图打一个接近的球。" 必须满足该条款的两个部分。
It is possible for a player in an offside position to attempt to play a ball and not commit an offence – there must be impact on an opponent too.
越位位置的球员有可能尝试打球而不犯法--也必须对对手产生影响。
As the ball came in, Fernandez threw himself to try to head it, with Martinez directly behind him. Video assistant referee Matt Donohue should ask himself if Fernandez's action would have influenced Martinez.
当球进入时,费尔南德斯全身心地试图顶住它,马丁内斯直接在他身后。 视频助理裁判Matt Donohue应该问自己费尔南德斯的行动是否会影响马丁内斯。
In other words: If Fernandez had not jumped for the attempted header, would Martinez have made a different decision over playing the ball?
换句话说:如果费尔南德斯没有跳过尝试的头球,马丁内斯会在踢球时做出不同的决定吗?
If the ball had been out of reach for Fernandez, or for Martinez, then there is an argument to give the goal. And also: There would have been no offside had Fernandez made no attempt to play the ball. But he did.
如果球已经遥不可及的费尔南德斯,或马丁内斯,然后有一个论点,给目标。 而且:如果费尔南德斯没有尝试踢球,就不会有越位。 但他做到了。
And as it went just a yard in front of Martinez too, it is very difficult to argue Fernandez did not commit an offside offence.
而且,因为它只是在马丁内斯前面的一个院子里了,这是很难说费尔南德斯没有犯越位罪行。
There is also an argument that the actions of Fernandez influence the positioning of goalkeeper Senne Lammens.
还有一种说法认为,费尔南德斯的行动影响了守门员森内*拉门斯的定位。
However, the goal was originally ruled out for offside against Haaland - which was incorrect.
然而,这个目标最初被排除在对哈兰德的越位-这是不正确的。
So that decision had to be overturned.
所以这个决定必须被推翻。
And then, the VAR should have sent referee Michael Oliver to the monitor for the subjective offence by Fernandez.
然后,VAR应该将裁判迈克尔奥利弗送到班长,因为费尔南德斯的主观罪行。
It would have created the odd situation where a disallowed goal was reviewed to remain ruled out - but this is what should have happened. It was a clear offside offence by Fernandez and will go down as a VAR mistake.
这将创造一个奇怪的情况,一个不允许的目标被审查以保持排除-但这是应该发生的事情。 这是费尔南德斯明显的越位进攻,并将作为VAR的错误下降.
Carrick 'baffled' by decision to award controversial Man City goal With Haaland's goal settling the match, United were unsurprisingly disappointed by the decision.
卡里克决定授予有争议的曼城进球,这让他感到困惑 随着哈兰德的进球解决了比赛,曼联对这个决定毫不奇怪地感到失望。
"I think it was offside," said Martinez. "And what I can't understand is the rules.
"我认为这是越位的,"马丁内斯说。 "而我无法理解的是规则。
I want to be calm now, I want to control myself.
我现在要冷静,我要控制自己。
"It's so hard because you lose a derby, you lose three points at home, and every season they're [referees] coming to our club, they explain for one hour the rules, and they look so confident with that, and then after [there are] five or six people doing these kind of mistakes in the Premier League - it's unacceptable.
"这很难,因为你输掉了一场德比,你在主场输掉了3分,每个赛季他们(裁判)都来我们俱乐部,他们解释了一个小时的规则,他们看起来很有信心,然后在英超有五六个人犯了这样的错误之后--这是不可接受的。
"It's the best league in the world, you have the best teams in the world, the best players in the world, and now we have to go home with this injustice."
"这是世界上最好的联赛,你们拥有世界上最好的球队,世界上最好的球员,现在我们必须带着这种不公正回家。"
United boss Carrick also expressed his confusion.
曼联主帅卡里克也表达了自己的困惑。
"We put things in place in the game now, we have people in offices with all the screens for this decision," he said.
"我们现在把事情放在游戏中,我们有办公室里的人,所有的屏幕都是为了这个决定,"他说。
"It's more worrying about if that's the interpretation of football now. If that's the interpretation of not interfering in the game now, that's really worrying for me. It's a staggering explanation.
"更令人担忧的是,如果这就是现在足球的解释。 如果这是现在不干预游戏的解释,那真的让我担心。 这是一个惊人的解释。
"The decision isn't going to change the season, but it's had a major impact on the game."
"这个决定不会改变赛季,但它对比赛产生了重大影响。"
Wayne Rooney, part of the BBC's MOTD2 team, said: "Surely it's offside.
BBC MOTD2团队的一部分Wayne Rooney说:"肯定是越位了。
Martinez is impacted by Fernandez's movement, and he is offside."
马丁内斯受到费尔南德斯运动的影响,他越位。"
Gary Neville said on Sky Sports: "I think we'll see some sort of apology from the referee's association, there's no doubt Fernandez is playing that ball and is trying to put off Martinez.
加里*内维尔(Gary Neville)在天空体育(Sky Sports)上说:"我认为我们会看到裁判协会的某种道歉,毫无疑问,费尔南德斯正在踢那个球,并试图推迟马丁内斯。
I think it's one they'll recognising they got wrong." Micah Richards added: "I think it's been a bad day for referees. They got the Foden decision wrong and the Fernandez decision wrong.
我想这是一个他们会认识到他们错了。" Micah Richards补充说:"我认为这对裁判来说是一个糟糕的一天。 他们把Foden的决定弄错了,Fernandez的决定弄错了。
I think they got it so wrong but I don't think it takes anything away from City's performance."
我认为他们弄错了,但我不认为这会影响曼城的表现。"
Meanwhile, City boss Maresca said: "I think it was onside clearly so it's good." Fernandes and Foden should have been sent off - Maresca The goal came after a first half laced with controversy, with Foden shown a straight red for kicking out at midfielder Fernandes.
与此同时,城市老板马雷斯卡说:"我认为这显然是靠边的,所以这很好。" 费尔南德斯和福登应该被送走-马雷斯卡 这个进球是在上半场充满争议之后出现的,福登在中场费尔南德斯踢出一个直红。
City midfielder Foden picked up the ball wide on the right-hand side in his own half and was closed down by Fernandes, who tripped him. Foden then kicked out at the body of the Portuguese midfielder while on the ground and was shown a straight red card by the referee.
曼城中场福登在自己的半场右路接球,被绊倒他的费尔南德斯关闭。 Foden随后在地面上踢出葡萄牙中场的身体,并被裁判出示了一张直红牌。
Replays showed that Fernandes kicked Foden in the back first, before the England international retaliated. The incident was checked by the VAR, who confirmed the on-field decision; Fernandes was not shown a card. Pundits were divided on whether Foden should have seen red and whether Fernandes was the man at fault.
重播显示,费尔南德斯在英格兰国脚报复之前先在后面踢了福登。 VAR检查了这一事件,他证实了场上的决定;费尔南德斯没有出示一张卡片。 专家们对Foden是否应该看到red以及Fernandes是否是这个人的错存在分歧。
Former Manchester United forward Rooney did not believe it was a red, saying "it was more of a flick or a gesture, than a kick out".
前曼联前锋鲁尼不相信这是一个红色,他说"这更像是一个轻弹或一个手势,而不是一个踢出"。
Neville said he was "surprised" Fernandes did not receive a booking for his role while Roy Keane said the fault lay with the Portuguese midfielder.
内维尔说,他"很惊讶"费尔南德斯没有收到他的角色的预订,而罗伊基恩说,故障在于葡萄牙中场。
"Foden gets up and reacts obviously, so he's sent off," he said.
"Foden站起来,反应明显,所以他被罚下场,"他说。
"Fernandes catches him and gives him a little kick.
"费尔南德斯抓住他,给了他一个小小的踢。
I guess it's classed as violent.
我想它被归类为暴力。
But Fernandes is the one who is violent here, I don't think Foden should have a red card."
但费尔南德斯是这里暴力的人,我认为福登不应该有红牌。"
Dale Johnson, BBC Sport's issues correspondent, said: "The referee and VAR would have to deem it violent conduct rather than just petulance from Fernandes.
英国广播公司体育的问题记者戴尔约翰逊说:"裁判和VAR将不得不认为这是暴力行为,而不仅仅是费尔南德斯的petulance。
"The guidance changed some years ago to factor that in, so David Beckham's kick on Diego Simeone in the 1998 World Cup would not result in a sending off today.
"几年前,指导方针改变了这一点,所以大卫贝克汉姆在1998年世界杯上对迭戈西蒙尼的踢球不会导致今天的罚球。
"It looked to me like there was little to no contact from Fernandes, and if there was it was limited force and wasn't followed through.
"在我看来,费尔南德斯几乎没有联系,如果有,那就是有限的力量,没有被跟踪。
"So Bruno's act would be seen as a yellow card offence, which the VAR obviously can't get involved in."
"所以布鲁诺的行为将被视为黄牌罪行,VAR显然无法参与其中。"
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