
VAR did not even consider if Fernandez was offside - Webb
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Refereeing decisions were 'baffling' - Rooney Referees' chief Howard Webb has admitted that the video assistant referee (VAR) did not even consider whether Enzo Fernandez was offside for Erling Haaland's controversial winner in Sunday's Manchester derby.
裁判的决定是"莫名其妙"-鲁尼 裁判长霍华德*韦伯承认,视频助理裁判(VAR)甚至没有考虑恩佐*费尔南德斯是否在周日的曼彻斯特德比中为埃尔林*哈兰德(Erling Haaland)有争议的获胜者越位。
Speaking on the first edition of 'Match Officials Mic'd Up' of the season, Webb said he was "really disappointed" with the error made by the VAR Matt Donohue and his assistant Blake Antrobus.
在本赛季的第一版"比赛官员Mic'D Up"上,韦伯说他对VAR Matt Donohue和他的助手Blake Antrobus所犯的错误感到"非常失望"。
Manchester City striker Haaland thought he had scored the only goal of the game at Old Trafford in the 60th minute, but it was disallowed on the field for offside.
曼城前锋哈兰德本以为自己在第60分钟在老特拉福德打进了本场比赛的唯一一球,但由于越位而在场上被不允许。
A VAR review found Haaland was just onside, and the goal was awarded.
VAR评论发现哈兰德只是站在一边,进球被授予。
But it immediately became apparent that the video officials had made an error in failing to identify an offside offence by Fernandez, diving at the ball in a central position and interfering with opponents.
但很明显,视频官员在未能识别费尔南德斯的越位进攻,在中心位置跳水球并干扰对手方面犯了一个错误。
"I was really disappointed with this outcome.
"我对这个结果真的很失望。
We all are," said Webb, Premier League refereeing body Pro Ref's chief refereeing officer. "None more so than the officials themselves.
我们都是,"英超裁判机构Pro Ref的首席裁判官韦伯说。 "没有比官员自己更好的了。
They take a lot of personal pride in what they do and they're obviously hurting now, having fallen short in this situation. "They'll not be officiating again until after the international break."
他们对自己的所作所为充满了个人的自豪感,而且他们现在显然受到了伤害,在这种情况下还不够。 "直到国际比赛结束后,他们才会再次主持。"
Manchester City won 1-0 at Old Trafford after a VAR mistake handed them the only goal of the game One of the questions which many supporters have asked is how the VAR team could possibly reach the conclusion that Fernandez did not commit an offside offence.
曼城1-0在老特拉福德获胜,因为VAR失误给了他们本场比赛的唯一进球 许多支持者提出的一个问题是VAR团队如何可能得出费尔南德斯没有越位进攻的结论。
Manchester United defender Lisandro Martinez initially appeared to be marking Haaland, but then moved over to try and intercept the ball from Fernandez.
曼联后卫利桑德罗*马丁内斯(Lisandro Martinez)最初似乎正在标记哈兰德(Haaland),但随后转移到试图拦截费尔南德斯(Fernandez)的球。
This left Haaland free at the back post to finish.
这让哈兰在后柱上自由自在地完成了比赛.
Former England striker and BBC Sport pundit Wayne Rooney said on Match of the Day that "to not see that and recognise that Enzo Fernandez was in an offside position...anyone who has played the game at any level understands that and to get it so wrong is baffling." The Mic'd Up audio revealed that at no stage did Donohue or Antrobus consider whether Fernandez was offside because, as Webb describes, they got "tunnel vision" over Haaland.
前英格兰前锋和BBC体育专家韦恩鲁尼在当天的比赛中表示,"没有看到这一点,并认识到恩佐费尔南德斯处于越位位置。..任何在任何级别玩过游戏的人都明白这一点,并且弄错了这一点是令人困惑的。" Mic'd Up音频显示,Donohue或Antrobus在任何阶段都没有考虑费尔南德斯是否越位,因为正如Webb所描述的那样,他们在Haaland上获得了"隧道视野"。
The semi-automated offside technology told the VAR that Haaland was three centimetres onside from Josko Gvardiol's cross.
半自动越位技术告诉VAR,Haaland距离Josko Gvardiol的十字架三厘米。
But the video officials then only checked for a touch by Fernandez which would have created a new offside phase against the Norway international.
但视频官员随后只检查了费尔南德斯的接触,这将创造一个新的越位阶段反对挪威国际。
This is the transcript, which was dominated by the VAR with the AVAR only making one minor contribution.
这是成绩单,这是由VAR主导,AVAR只做了一个小的贡献。
At the start of the season, video officials were encouraged to be more efficient with their checks and not take an excessive amount of time.
在赛季开始时,视频官员被鼓励更有效率地检查他们的支票,而不是花费过多的时间。
Comments made by the technical replay operator have been omitted.
技术重播操作员所作的评论已被省略。
VAR: Checking the on-field decision of offside against Haaland.
VAR:检查越位对哈兰德的场上决定。
The VAR and the semi-automated offside operator then discuss the decision against Haaland and he is shown to be onside.
VAR和半自动越位操作员然后讨论对Haaland的决定,他被证明是越位的。
VAR: Okay, so he's onside.
好吧,他站在一边了。
So we now need to check the full APP (attacking phase).
所以我们现在需要检查完整的应用程序(攻击阶段)。
VAR speaking to referee Michael Oliver: Michael, Haaland's in an onside position, but I need to check the full APP now. Stand by. VAR: Haaland's clearly onside.
瓦尔对裁判迈克尔*奥利弗说:迈克尔,哈兰德处于靠边位置,但我现在需要检查完整的应用程序。 准备好。 瓦尔:哈兰显然已经站在一边了。
Roll it all the way through.
把它一直滚过去。
Roll it all the way through. VAR: Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. VAR: Go back just to check Ndiaye wasn't on offside.
把它一直滚过去。 VAR:我们走,我们走,我们走,我们走。 VAR:回去只是为了检查Ndiaye没有越位。
Sorry, my apologies.
对不起,我很抱歉。
When it's flicked. Quick, quick, quick, quick. Yes, fine. Go, go, go, go, go. VAR: Let's go. It should be a goal.
当它被弹动的时候。 快,快,快,快。 是的,很好。 快,快,快,快。 VAR:我们走吧。 这应该是一个目标。
All the way into the back of the net now. VAR: Quick, quick, quick, quick! Go, go, go, go, go!
一直到网的后面。 快,快,快,快! 快,快,快,快!
This is the point at which Gvardiol crosses the ball into the box. VAR: Deflection. Onside.
这是Gvardiol将球穿过盒子的点。 VAR:偏转。 靠边。
No touch there [by Fernandez].
没有接触那里[由费尔南德斯].
Confirm, no touch. There wasn't. VAR: Just something [camera angle] tighter. Clear gap. VAR: There's not a touch, is there [by Fernandez]?
确认,没有触摸。 没有。 VAR:只是一些[相机角度]更紧。 明显的差距。 VAR:没有触摸,是[由费尔南德斯]吗?
There's no touch.
没有触摸。
VAR: Another angle. Roll it through, roll it through, roll it through.
VAR:另一个角度。 滚过去,滚过去,滚过去。
VAR to referee: Michael, confirming that you need to change your decision to goal. Haaland is in onside position.
VAR到裁判:迈克尔,确认你需要改变你的决定进球. 哈兰德处于靠边位置。
Final decision is goal. Check complete. Webb said that the VAR failed to assess how Fernandez found himself in that position, so did not consider the offside offence. "The VAR gets super-focused on Haaland," said Webb, who had already been in contact with Manchester United to share the VAR audio and video.
最终决定是目标。 检查完成。 韦伯说,VAR未能评估费尔南德斯如何发现自己处于那个位置,因此没有考虑越位进攻。 "VAR超级专注于哈兰德,"韦伯说,他已经与曼联联系,分享VAR音频和视频。
"He establishes he's onside, he thinks that's a good goal.
"他认为自己越位了,他认为这是一个很好的目标。
"He doesn't truly evaluate the full impact of Fernandez's position.
"他并没有真正评估费尔南德斯职位的全部影响。
He has a look to see if he touches the ball, because then that relates to potentially knocking it to Haaland, who goes on to score."
他想看看他是否碰到了球,因为这就意味着他可能会把球敲给哈兰德,哈兰德继续得分。"
Webb highlighted the lack of assistance from Antrobus as the assistant VAR, who did not offer a meaningful contribution during the review. "In that moment, he [Donohue] gets tunnel vision," Webb said.
Webb强调了作为助理VAR的Antrobus缺乏帮助,他在审查期间没有提供有意义的贡献。 "在那一刻,他[Donohue]获得了隧道视野,"韦伯说。
"It's down to the rest of his team to pull him out of that tunnel, and unfortunately, that didn't happen on this occasion.
"他的团队的其他成员将他从隧道中拉出来,不幸的是,这种情况并没有发生。
"What looks like a really clear subjective offside, because Fernandez doesn't touch the ball but still clearly impacts [the play but] doesn't get identified, and it's really disappointing. "This goal should've been disallowed.
"看起来像是一个非常明显的主观越位,因为费尔南德斯没有碰球,但仍然明显影响[比赛但]没有被识别,这真的令人失望。 "这个目标应该被不允许。
And highly unfortunately, it wasn't, and we'll review it, reflect upon it, and try to take the learning forward to prevent this unusual type of error from happening again."
非常不幸的是,它不是,我们将回顾它,反思它,并尝试向前学习,以防止这种不寻常的错误再次发生。"
There was also much debate over the red card shown to Phil Foden in the 23th minute for kicking out at Bruno Fernandes, largely because there was no sanction against the Portuguese midfielder for a similar act. Webb backed the decision to dismiss Foden, but said the action by Fernandes did not meet the threshold for violent conduct.
对于菲尔*福登在第23分钟踢出布鲁诺*费尔南德斯的红牌,也有很多争论,主要是因为没有对葡萄牙中场的类似行为进行制裁。 韦伯支持解雇Foden的决定,但表示Fernandes的行动没有达到暴力行为的门槛。
"I agree with the red card for Phil Foden," said Webb.
"我同意菲尔*福登的红牌,"韦伯说。
"He kicks out with force into the upper body of Bruno Fernandes.
"他用力踢向布鲁诺*费尔南德斯的上半身。
"Now, when you look at the footage, there is that petulant kick by Bruno Fernandes into the backside of Foden. It is more petulant than violent.
"现在,当你看到镜头时,布鲁诺*费尔南德斯(Bruno Fernandes)在福登(Foden)的背面踢了一脚。 它比暴力更暴躁.
"To be violent conduct, it has to have excessive force or brutality. When you look at that, particularly in full speed, it doesn't have those elements.
"要成为暴力行为,它必须具有过度的武力或暴行。 当你看到它时,特别是全速,它没有这些元素。
So therefore, this would be a yellow card offence." Webb added that if Foden had not been sent off on the field, but he had been via a VAR review - as Aston Villa's Joao Gomes was at Brighton for a similar offence last month - Fernandes' yellow-card offence would also have been identified at the pitchside monitor. Fernandes and Foden should have both got yellow - Murphy Refereeing body admits judgement error over Haaland derby winner Left in the dark - will fans ever get to hear live VAR audio?
因此,这将是一个黄牌罪行。" 韦伯补充说,如果Foden没有在场上被罚下,但他已经通过VAR审查-因为阿斯顿维拉的Joao Gomes上个月在布莱顿犯了类似的罪行-费尔南德斯的黄牌罪行也会在pitchside监 Fernandes和Foden应该都得到了黄墨菲 裁判机构承认对哈兰德比冠军的判决错误 留在黑暗中-球迷们会听到现场VAR音频吗?
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